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	<title>Comments on: Tomorrow is the Question! (Ornette Coleman)</title>
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		<title>By: squashed</title>
		<link>http://www.moteldemoka.com/2007/09/21/tomorrow-is-the-question-ornette-coleman/#comment-90050</link>
		<dc:creator>squashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if you got something to say, say it loud right? lol. I like daring move.


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PS GG,

thanks for the bad-plus links. I enjoyed reading them.
(I think I am going to make a rant-post about free jazz soon. ... (watch ignorant me being dangerous, haaa)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if you got something to say, say it loud right? lol. I like daring move.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>PS GG,</p>
<p>thanks for the bad-plus links. I enjoyed reading them.<br />
(I think I am going to make a rant-post about free jazz soon. &#8230; (watch ignorant me being dangerous, haaa)</p>
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		<title>By: ristorm</title>
		<link>http://www.moteldemoka.com/2007/09/21/tomorrow-is-the-question-ornette-coleman/#comment-89614</link>
		<dc:creator>ristorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shape of Jazz to Come... what an ambitious album title. Only thing is he was absolutely right. definitely within my top 3 Jazz records. Essential. Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shape of Jazz to Come&#8230; what an ambitious album title. Only thing is he was absolutely right. definitely within my top 3 Jazz records. Essential. Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: godoggo</title>
		<link>http://www.moteldemoka.com/2007/09/21/tomorrow-is-the-question-ornette-coleman/#comment-87920</link>
		<dc:creator>godoggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I'll tell you who &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an Ornette expert: Ethan Iverson of the Bad plus. I'd especially recommend &lt;a href="http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2006/10/early_ornette_c.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; on Ornette and &lt;a href="http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2007/05/links_517_dewey.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this one &lt;/a&gt; on Dewey Redman. Both include well-chosen sound samples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I&#8217;ll tell you who <i>is</i> an Ornette expert: Ethan Iverson of the Bad plus. I&#8217;d especially recommend <a href="http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2006/10/early_ornette_c.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> on Ornette and <a href="http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2007/05/links_517_dewey.html" rel="nofollow">this one </a> on Dewey Redman. Both include well-chosen sound samples.</p>
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		<title>By: godoggo</title>
		<link>http://www.moteldemoka.com/2007/09/21/tomorrow-is-the-question-ornette-coleman/#comment-87915</link>
		<dc:creator>godoggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm actually no Ornette expert; you're probably as familiar with his discography as me. But Science Fiction is commonly singled out as an especially good session, it's a personal favorite, and when I recommended it to a friend who was curious about Ornette, it blew him away.

There are a lot of different styles of free jazz, so you can't really generalize about it. Most of my favorite stuff is Ornette derived; I think his general conception is particularly rich, and it's still about melody and swinging and blues, in a twisted fashion. I like his general conception and some of his sidemen maybe better than his sax playing, though I like that fine. Some people have taken his music farther than him, it seems to me. 

A lot of my favorite free jazz is from L.A.-based artists, such as John Carter and James newton in the '80s, and nowadays a lot of Cryptogramophone stuff, which I know you're familiar with. Partly it's just because I am an Angelino, but somehow there's a certain balane of prettiness, earthiness and weirdness that I find in a lot of local out jazz. Something in the smog? And of course Ornette formed his early groups here before he took them back east and got famous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually no Ornette expert; you&#8217;re probably as familiar with his discography as me. But Science Fiction is commonly singled out as an especially good session, it&#8217;s a personal favorite, and when I recommended it to a friend who was curious about Ornette, it blew him away.</p>
<p>There are a lot of different styles of free jazz, so you can&#8217;t really generalize about it. Most of my favorite stuff is Ornette derived; I think his general conception is particularly rich, and it&#8217;s still about melody and swinging and blues, in a twisted fashion. I like his general conception and some of his sidemen maybe better than his sax playing, though I like that fine. Some people have taken his music farther than him, it seems to me. </p>
<p>A lot of my favorite free jazz is from L.A.-based artists, such as John Carter and James newton in the &#8217;80s, and nowadays a lot of Cryptogramophone stuff, which I know you&#8217;re familiar with. Partly it&#8217;s just because I am an Angelino, but somehow there&#8217;s a certain balane of prettiness, earthiness and weirdness that I find in a lot of local out jazz. Something in the smog? And of course Ornette formed his early groups here before he took them back east and got famous.</p>
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		<title>By: squashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>squashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eidth,

hey thanks.

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gg,

haa haa, I definitely need more tips from the experts. :D

I listened to science fiction, btw. I like "Law Years"
Catchy opening bass, and the brass isn't turning my head into fried dumpling.  I think my problem with free jazz, I only know so few of them. I don't have enough to compare. for eg. I don't know the "frame" of listening. I don't know to listen it like "noise art", very dense avant rock, modern classic, or very colorful minimalist electronica. Of course free jazz is none of them, but when I listen to music I have a tendency to chop it up into "phrases" or frame. for eg. a sentence of a lyric, a melody,  one repetition, one theme, etc...

with free jazz, I don't know if I have to listen to it very very loud and only pay attention to split seconds of pitch then move to next one .. or concentrate for long period of time. which after awhile turns my head into fried dumpling, everything sounds the same. 

With more standard form of jazz, everything is comfortable. the "swing" feeling, phrasing, taking turns, etc. a lot of hints and I can bop my head along...

of course it's hard to generalized complex genre like free jazz into simple listening tips. And I know one just listen and ask. But really free jazz is pretty tough all around. (It doesn't help that albums are hard to get.) but I can't help ranting.

also, I like 'virgin beauty" (Virgin beauty, 1988)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eidth,</p>
<p>hey thanks.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>gg,</p>
<p>haa haa, I definitely need more tips from the experts. :D</p>
<p>I listened to science fiction, btw. I like &#8220;Law Years&#8221;<br />
Catchy opening bass, and the brass isn&#8217;t turning my head into fried dumpling.  I think my problem with free jazz, I only know so few of them. I don&#8217;t have enough to compare. for eg. I don&#8217;t know the &#8220;frame&#8221; of listening. I don&#8217;t know to listen it like &#8220;noise art&#8221;, very dense avant rock, modern classic, or very colorful minimalist electronica. Of course free jazz is none of them, but when I listen to music I have a tendency to chop it up into &#8220;phrases&#8221; or frame. for eg. a sentence of a lyric, a melody,  one repetition, one theme, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>with free jazz, I don&#8217;t know if I have to listen to it very very loud and only pay attention to split seconds of pitch then move to next one .. or concentrate for long period of time. which after awhile turns my head into fried dumpling, everything sounds the same. </p>
<p>With more standard form of jazz, everything is comfortable. the &#8220;swing&#8221; feeling, phrasing, taking turns, etc. a lot of hints and I can bop my head along&#8230;</p>
<p>of course it&#8217;s hard to generalized complex genre like free jazz into simple listening tips. And I know one just listen and ask. But really free jazz is pretty tough all around. (It doesn&#8217;t help that albums are hard to get.) but I can&#8217;t help ranting.</p>
<p>also, I like &#8216;virgin beauty&#8221; (Virgin beauty, 1988)</p>
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		<title>By: edith</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful description of coleman's music and great set of songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful description of coleman&#8217;s music and great set of songs.</p>
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		<title>By: godoggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>godoggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were to own just one Ornette album, the best choice would be Science Fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were to own just one Ornette album, the best choice would be Science Fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: squashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>squashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching for alice coltrane clip, I found this instead. Amazing rendition of "My Fav. Things, in Bossa Nova style)

Linda Sandiford &#038; Nico Vlahavas "My Favourite Things"

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John Coltrane Quartet - My Favorite Things
(of course Coltrane himself. never get tired listening to his take. A million miles per hour stream of notes )

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching for alice coltrane clip, I found this instead. Amazing rendition of &#8220;My Fav. Things, in Bossa Nova style)</p>
<p>Linda Sandiford &#038; Nico Vlahavas &#8220;My Favourite Things&#8221;</p>
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<p>John Coltrane Quartet - My Favorite Things<br />
(of course Coltrane himself. never get tired listening to his take. A million miles per hour stream of notes )</p>
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